Live or Memorex?

Don Fanning don at 00100100.net
Sat Apr 19 14:17:09 PDT 2014


Where i see this as being applicable would be people who are what we would
consider "CB'ers" who want some distance without antennas or legal hassles.
 But I certainly wouldn't pay for such a service.


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Grant Hopper <kb7wsd at gmail.com> wrote:

> I get your explanation, but Michael, to toss a small wrench into your
> example about flying, I can introduce you to lots of pilots that use
> virtual for training.  Little simulators and great big ones that B and
> others use.  Why? Cost and time.  Non-pilots do that too.  Not enough
> commitment or economic resources to fly for real, but loving the technical
> nature of 'flying'.
>
> Apply that (cost and time argument) to amateur radio and it makes no sense
> to me. Since the time is pretty much the same, it's all down to cost then,
> and that's a pretty minor difference too (since on one hand you can run a
> person's radio over the internet (for free in some cases) or build one for
> less than $40 (CW.)
>
> So people would rather spend hours 'playing' in an environment that
> doesn't even really simulate amateur radio, but requires a person to know
> at least some of the stuff you'd need to know in order to get your license,
> but they'd rather play in a simulation of a hobby that's already pretty
> geeky and is completely isolated from real radio? That's where it gets a
> bit weird to me.  Preferring a pretend environment is about as
> understandable as the people that want to wear silicone body suits to
> pretend to be someone else and go out in the real world and expect people
> to treat them normally....
>
> Honestly, the silicone body suit thing makes MORE sense to me.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 4:44 AM, CWO4 Michael A. Sterba USNR <
> ars.kg7hq at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve,
>>
>> And interesting perspective and one of which I couldn't see through my own
>> biases. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. :)
>>
>> Michael -KG7HQ
>>
>> On Friday, April 18, 2014 11:39:33 PM Steve Stroh wrote:
>> > Grant:
>> >
>> > It's yet another online simulation of a real life situation. I first
>> > referenced a less pleasant example but quickly thought of a more
>> > pleasant one - virtual flying where you can interact with other
>> > virtual pilots - virtualized aircraft comms, etc.
>> >
>> > Real pilots would say "why don't they just get their pilot's license"?
>> >
>> > This is just another such simulation.
>> >
>> > You're a licensed ham with gear on the air and pleasant to communicate
>> > with; not really part of the target audience for this service.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Grant Hopper <kb7wsd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Maybe I suddenly lost my mind, but I'm having a hard time
>> understanding
>> > > the
>> > > 'why' of this software.  I'm assuming that I'm missing something
>> since it
>> > > doesn't make sense:
>> > >
>> > > For about $45 I get software that lets me PRETEND that I'm an amateur
>> > > radio
>> > > operator and do all the things hams might do, but over the internet
>> with
>> > > other people PRETENDING to be hams?  That seems as close to
>> meaningless as
>> > > one can actually get.  For god sake why would anyone do that instead
>> of
>> > > just getting their license (which costs less) and talking to REAL hams
>> > > instead of some pretend game?
>> > >
>> > > If it somehow makes sense to do that, I'm pretty sure I'm high right
>> now
>> > > and have nothing but the legalization of pot here in WA to blame for
>> it.
>>
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